Hi,Iwanttosayhellotoeveryone,atleastafewwhohavevisitedtrAce
aswell!
yours,Alan
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3imagesfromshintoandatextinrelationtoapanoramaimage,inthe
directory-
Alan,lookingoutattheAtlanticCenter,whichhasremovedits(bankrupt)
Caldor'ssign.
          

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At15:0125/10/99,TedWarnellwrote:
>Knowmostofyou--directly,or,by*reputation*--
>andnowlookforwardtowork/playingwithyouall...
sameforme
justuploadedsomething
best
annie
          

http://www.multimania.com/abrahams/beinghuman/info.htm
Goodthingswillcomeofthis.
--
DavidKnoebel
http://www.clickpoetry.com
alittlesomething
--
DavidKnoebel
http://www.clickpoetry.com
SometimesI'mtoodamngnomicformyowngood.ImeanttosaythatI
          

postedsomethingatcurrents.
http://workxspace.de/current/
reinerstrasserwrote:
>
>lik
>e
>
>d
>ew
>
          

>or
>
>d
>ar
>i
>b
>
>?
>
>DavidKnoebelwrote:
          

>
>>alittlesomething
>>--
>>DavidKnoebel
>>http://www.clickpoetry.com
--
DavidKnoebel
http://www.clickpoetry.com
Gladtohaveyouwithus,Alan,especiallyafterallthatbaloneyonthe
UBlist.
          

--
DavidKnoebel
http://www.clickpoetry.com
ted,hopeyouarewell
wearemakingthefinishingtouchon'water'
ihavelinkedit
from
http://www.artxspace.de/
(itisalreadyonlineatthenowfestivalsite)
best
          

reiner
......whatiscomingsoon....is(workingfor)'current'
sorryted...confused:)
http://www.workxspace.de
best......reiner
btw...www.warnell.com.....looksfine:)
TedWarnellwrote:
>At07:23PM99-10-22+0200,youwrote:
>>ted,hopeyouarewell
>
          

>Yes,thanks.Youtoo,Ihope.
>
>>wearemakingthefinishingtouchon'water'
>>
>>ihavelinkedit
>>from
>>http://www.artxspace.de/
>
>NoDNS...
right:)
          

>
>
>>(itisalreadyonlineatthenowfestivalsite)
>>
>>
>>
>>best
>>
>>reiner
>>
          

>>......whatiscomingsoon....is(workingfor)'current'
>
>Current?IfyoumeanPbN...
>
>http://warnell.com/syntac/field.htm
youremembersurelythepanoramafile....projecttitle'current'
with
ChristySS,MEZ,David,Tina,Annie,Predrag,Ted(PbN).....
willbehappensoononworkXspace....sharingwebspace:)
>
          

>
>At07:58PM99-10-22+0200,youwrote:
>>sorryted...confused:)
>>http://www.workxspace.de
>
>StillnoDNS...
wrong....tryagain....badconnection
>
>
>>best......reiner
          

>>
>>btw...www.warnell.com.....looksfine:)
>
>We'regettingthere.
>Iwillchangeitallfor2000.
>
>Thanksforthenote,Re--itisgoodtohearagain
>fromyou.AlmosttimeforRe/PbNtodosomething...
almost:)
>
          

>
>Ted
>
>http://warnell.comnewmedianetwork
reiner...........
>
>>>
>>>http://warnell.com/syntac/field.htm
>
looksfine!(oneimagehasnotload?)
          

>
>Butthatisnotwhatyoumeant...
>
>>youremembersurelythepanoramafile....projecttitle'current'
>>with
>>ChristySS,MEZ,David,Tina,Annie,Predrag,Ted(PbN).....
>>
>>willbehappensoononworkXspace....sharingwebspace:)
>
>Slippedmymindalongwithaboutamillionotherthings...
          

>sorry,butifyouhavesomethingformetolookat,thenI
>willbehappytopaticipateinsomewayifIcan.
collectyourthoughts
http://www.workxspace.de/current/
>
>
>>>At07:58PM99-10-22+0200,youwrote:
>>>>sorryted...confused:)
>>>>http://www.workxspace.de
>>>
          

>>>StillnoDNS...
>>
>>wrong....tryagain....badconnection
>
>Right...itisthere!itlives!andbreatheswater!
>
>Reiner,thisisverycool--Icanseebothyoursand
>Christy'sinputhere--nicelymerging--aswater...
>eachinfluenceaffectinganddissolvingtheother.
thanksforyourkindwords:))
          

>
>
>Atleastone404foranimage,
where????????????allgoeswellfromhere
butitisnotthefinalversion
(wearebuildingsomeadds.....smallwindows.....crosslinks)
>
>
>Anytime.
lookforcurrent
          

>
>
>>>Ted
>>>
>>>http://warnell.comnewmedianetwork
>>
>>reiner...........
>
>CUinthestream(clearwater:)
>
          

>Ted
windypool.........thestream.........cuthere........reiner
(theshowwillgoon:)
>
>
>Whatkindofworkwouldyoulikefor'current'?
nothinglikethat
'current'willbecomeacollab
ofeightofthefamoust:))artists
ontheworld
          

youwillgetuploadpermission
wewillbeincontactalleight
andbuildaworktogether
:)
cu.......reiner
>
haveyoulookedthere
http://www.workxspace.de/current/
hited,
onceagain
          

ifyouhaveanyideas
youcandocument/collectitontheserver
yourftpinformation
host:workxspace.de
user_id:1173-970
password:.....willbesentinaseperatemail
directory:current
...youwillsee....
openanowndirectory
youcancopymyindexifyoulike...
          

andsetinyourstuff
andadd/activateyourlinkonthemain(project)indexpage
best
reiner
password:rexpoem
hiall,
........iwanttostartthe'current'project
sooooooooon
Tedhasalreadyuploadsomething
atthecurrent-site
          

(igiveyouapennyforyourthoughts:)
http://workxspace.de/current/
andihave______too
but
uploadthequicktime,jpgfiles
andsomeotherfragmentswhichihavetocreate
.....intotheprojectfolder
yousurelyrememberthepage
isetup
someweeksago....youcanfindit
          

withtwopopupwindows
inmydirectory
.......
butfirst
doyouknoweachother?
else
....introduceyourselfandsendsomeurl.s
.......
ihavesetupatthesite
acurrentdirectory
          

-aprojectsubdirectory
-astuffsubdirectory
-areinersdirectory
tedhasalreadysetup
the00directory
........
thestructuremaychange
.......
itshouldbecomeapiece
donebyall
          

(notacompilationofindividualpages)
but
everyonehashisownspacetoexperiment
aloneortogetherwithothers
(andthethemeitselfleadsinthisdirection
-----)
.......
ihavemadesomesketches
for
apossiblestructure
          

.......
but
itisyourstocreateit
together
......
ithinktheworkwillshow
whatis......necessary
.....
phase1-collecting
.....
          

ftp-info
host:workxspace.de
user_id:1173-970
password:willbesendinaseperatemail
directory:current
morelater
reiner
(sendtoall:)
password:rexpoem
hited,
          

nicepenny:)
.....................
christytoldmethatsomethingisnotworkingonthepcwithnetscape
couldyoupleasetest
thewinterwalkinthewaterpiece
onthesecondpage
byclickingonthe'horizont'
thereshouldappear
ahorizontalwindowwithafastscrollingpicture
ihavewrittenascript
          

tolookforthebrowser/platform
asihaveseen
somewhereelse
thescrolling-functiondoesonlyworkwithscrollbars
onthepcwithnetscape
onthepcwithiewithout.....
itisathttp://workxspace.de/water/rswater/walk.html
oryoucanopen
from
http://workxspace.de/water/
          

(winterwalkintheinterface)
best.....reiner
somemoresketches
at
http://artxspace.de/current/
changedthedirectory'reiners'to'pan'
:)
ciaooooooooooooreiner
>At11:08PM99-10-25+0200,youwrote:
>>hited,
          

>>
>>nicepenny:)
>
>Youwilllikethestory--relatingtocurrent
:))
>
>
>
>
>Foundithere.
          

>
>Lookstobeworkinghere--NSv.4.0816-bit
thankyou!!!ted....seemstowork
(onanniespctoo...)
best...cu...reiner
hiall;:)
openedanewdirectory
at
http://www.workxspace.de/current/
and
          

changedtheindexpageabit
added
alittletext.....
relax,contemplate,associate,reflect,remember,.....
best
reiner
btw....mezcreatedawonderfulnewbackgroundgifforworkXspace:)
lik
e
d
          

ew
or
d
ar
i
b
?
DavidKnoebelwrote:
>alittlesomething
>--
          

>DavidKnoebel
>http://www.clickpoetry.com
addedalittlestar.....*
(ohitisjava....ihavejavaalwaysofffffffff...nowonnnnnnfora
shorttime)
DavidKnoebelwrote:
>alittlesomething
>--
>DavidKnoebel
>http://www.clickpoetry.com
          

hiall,
ihadcontactwithAlanthelastdays
and..........
well.....nowwearenine
hopeyouagree....
best
reiner
newstuffbyAlan.......
best
reiner
          

ihavesetupamessagefilterinmybrowser
forthecurrentproject
andwillbepleasedifeverytimetheword
'current'couldappearinthesubject
:)thanks
setup
anewdirectory
calledmail
thereisonlyatextfileinit
iputsomemailextractsinit
          

feelfreetoaddsomemore
ifyouthink
itmaybeimportant
foralltoread
love.....reiner
atestfileisup
of
paninjavascript
youcanvariatethespeedbyclickinginthetoparea(3*4pixelheight)
best
          

reiner
......thepiece/ideaisenvolvingindifferentdirections-lookalsoat
00-hited:)
ihaveuploadanothertestfile
ofthepaninjavascript
youcanvarythespeedbymovingoverthetopofthepan
but
itsometimeskillsmybrowser
best...reiner
Isawtheearlierversionwhichwaspanningasitloadedandsotherewas
          

beautifulnoisemovingandchangingacrossthebottomoftheframe-it
wasamazing.I'lllooklater,butI'vehadnotrouble(nonewithquicktime
either)-Alan
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Andofcoursethere'sthenovelBarometerRisingabouttheexplosion,a
Canadianclassic...
Alan
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Wouldlikethenamestostay.
Halifaxfascinatedme;itwasaccidental;thereweretrainsfromBoston
bringingsupplies,relief;thefortresswasfinallyused(deflectedthe
blast)
thereissomuchpainintheworld,IthinkofHalifaxasameditation
alsoSiberia1909,therandomnessofitall
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Iputmoreimagesup.ThesewereoriginallytakeninJapan,reworkedin
Photoshop.I'monlymentioningthisbecauseIhaveatechnicalquestion.
OntheMactheseimageslookseamless;onthePC,thejpegshavebands
inthem.I'vetriedadjustingcoloronbothmachinestoeliminatethe
bands-nothingseemstowork.I'musingSonytrinitonmonitorsonboth
settomaximumcolors,etc.Anysuggestionsgreatlyappreciated.
-abouttheimages-IamfascinatedbyShinto,nottheideological/
nationalistaspects,buttheanimist/earlymythologicalaspects,andhow
theseplayoutevenin,say,Pokemon.Alsofascinatedbythespacesinthe
          

narrative,descriptions,andpropernamesinGenji.Theselandscapes-for
Ithinkofthemasthat-areopenended,panoramic,andReiner'spanorama
resonateswiththem.SoI'mreactingtothat.
Christy,Iloveyourpiece-
-Alan-
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afew,shouldbeatextcomingaswell,totheindex;Ifinishedthe
shintoserieswithafewadditionalalsoaddedtooaswell
          

thinkingaboutthepanoramaofkamiandtheirrelationtobuddhism
acrossjapan,interestedintheintenseanimismsandhowacontemporary
post-industrialsocietywithmultipleinternetnodesandanexcellent
electronictransportationsystemhas,placedwithinit,asystemof
multipleshrinenodes,kamis,localtales
andtheaestheticcategories,mononoaware,wabiandsabi,spacingsand
thinnedorvulnerableframes-
theseconsiderationsinrelationtor'spanoramawithitsopeningsto
timesandhiddenfolds,valleys,icanimaginegravesitesthere-
alan
          

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Ithinkofapanoramaasacontinuousline-of-sight;ononehand,the
inverseof(orviewfrom)Foucault'spanopticon-withallthepolitics
ofsurveillancethatimplies-andontheother,themultiplevanishing
pointsonefinds,say,inJapaneseemakiorNorthernSungpainting,
implyingaclose-to-baroqueorrococode-centering(SuveroSarduywrote
onthis,ade-centeredCubaninParis)-
Wheredoesonelookwithapanorama?Whatisthepotentialforlooking?
          

Inaway,notidlequestions-inReiner'swork,it'sacontinuous
scanning,resists(atleastatmyend)slowdown,almostaformofseduc-
tion(thePlayKissdollswhich'resist'fullnudity)-withNasa,it's
thecomprehensionofamoonorplanet,detailsnowdownto9metersin
somefly-bys...
Alan
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ForsomereasonIwanttokeeptothelittlesquaresandspreadthemout
          

mentallyasfaraspossible.Idohavea360degreelensImightbeable
tousewiththedigital,butIwanttocreep,crawl,huddlesmallina
corner.
Re:360-therearetopologicalconstantsinsheavetheorythatrequire
720degrees,whichisalsoafundamentalpropertyofourspace.Inother
words,certainoperationsthatrequirewhatseemsonthelevelofordinary
spacetorequireONErotation,butactuallyrequiresTWO.Theplatetrick
isanexample-it'spossibletorotateaplatetwiceandcontinue
rotatingitinthesamedirection,whilehavingone'shandfastenedtoit
(i.e.it'snotrotatingapartfromthehand).Anyoneinthevicinity,I
          

candemonstratethis.It'stoohardtodescribe,buttendstowardsother
waysofthinkingthroughfulldescriptions.
Alan,wonderingifthere'sanylengththatreturnstothebeginning
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-(seebelowfornew)
wantingtomovethepanorama,andthefieldsofdawnanddusk,
intotherealmofeternalnight,wheretherearekillings
goneundergroundorbomb-blastnightinthedarkdistance,
          

shatteredhardandsplintered,againsticonsraginginthedesktopsky-
there'sknowledgeinthickets,someoneishangingthere-
foramomenthumansshrinkearthsandworlds,planetsandmoons,
andforasecondasingleshaftofsunlightmakesusbeg-
thatasaviorwillcome,oraplagueorpureannihilation-
icompressthepanorama,placeitinmypocket,hardenit-
it'sathingofmemory,i'mhidingdownthereinthethickets-
youwon'teverfindme,theremorethanonebody-
they'reinthetrees,swaying-they'reonthesideoftheroad,
they'reacomforttome,ilieamongthem-
          

inthedistance,avoice-whoishangingthere?
===================
watchingtheprojectdevelop,igoinsideme
idon'tknowwhati'llfindthere,thingsrevealthemselves
thingspushthemselvesout,therearealwaysnewthingspushing
iwanttoburrowintheground,iwanttohidetherewithyou
i'llgivemultiplebirths,i'lleatsoil,myhairturnsmatted
i'llgofurtherthananyofyoualthoughitwillseemlikei'm
standingstill
mydreamspushthemselvesout,shintobeginstogiveway
          

thespacesareclutteredlikethenikkoshrine
mychesttearsoutfromwithin,othersstripmeofmyclothes
igoinasfarasican
there'snomoreroom
lookingout,panoramaseverywhere,isupposetherearesuns
tellmeaboutthesuns,ican'tspeak
whatcanitellyouwhenmyarmsarebound,mouthcloseagainstyou
turnaround,i'mpressedintoyourback
i'minyou,darkandlovingcomfort,panoramablack,countrysides
disappear
          

inthedistance,avoice-whoishangingthere?
_____________________________________________________________________
(thirdofhanging,throughthedetourofrain)
/usr/games/rain
-
O|.|
-
O
-o
/\.
          

|O|
\/
-
-rainfallingintherainprogram,openholesinpicomanifesto
/\orrainmurmuringingardensorrainfallingacrossblackbeams
|O|orwoodenbeams,howtheyareafterthefirestorms,charred,
\/-orsilencedbirds,burningwingsandlegs,what
/\/\asunnyday,we'llcontinueuntilairpoisons
|O|what'sleftofbeinghuman.rainfallsquiet
\/intherainprogram,splashesacrossscreens;
          

-it'sallgreenandblack,asifthescreenswere
seethinggreenmeadows,brookssurgeddownblackdirtandrockyslopes,
oinotherwords
--Ooflastregard,they
|.|/\aremonochrome.doyouknowsound,
-|O|hangingsremainhere.whatfalls,
\/suspendstheinfinite.youmaythink
-allthroughthisnight,rememberthe
shatteredplanes,wingstornastheyplunge,thatsilencescreeched,
nubofaircuttingthemintwo.bodiesvacatebodies.thesearepure
          

event,nothingelsehappeninginanyway,causehasallbutdisappeared.
crowdsgatherinemptiness.deathsarealwaysimminent,planesabove
-acidrain,planesplungethroughit.
/\
|O|
\/
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-
-/\
|.||O|
          

-\/
O-
o
.
-
/\
|O|
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o
          

-
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O
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Newimagesupaswell;they'remoresexualizedthantheothers,burrowings
intothebody-apologiesiftheymightoffend-youmightremovethem,
negatethem,burnthemout-Ithinkmoreandmoreofcollapsedpanoramas,
burned-outdioramabuildings,exhaustedlands,bodiesscuttledinsideof
bodies,hovered,blankandenergized/exhileratedaswell-Alan
          

(seebelow,additionaladditional)
wantingtomovethepanorama,andthefieldsofdawnanddusk,
intotherealmofeternalnight,wheretherearekillings
goneundergroundorbomb-blastnightinthedarkdistance,
shatteredhardandsplintered,againsticonsraginginthedesktopsky-
there'sknowledgeinthickets,someoneishangingthere-
foramomenthumansshrinkearthsandworlds,planetsandmoons,
andforasecondasingleshaftofsunlightmakesusbeg-
thatasaviorwillcome,oraplagueorpureannihilation-
icompressthepanorama,placeitinmypocket,hardenit-
          

it'sathingofmemory,i'mhidingdownthereinthethickets-
youwon'teverfindme,theremorethanonebody-
they'reinthetrees,swaying-they'reonthesideoftheroad,
they'reacomforttome,ilieamongthem-
inthedistance,avoice-whoishangingthere?
===================
watchingtheprojectdevelop,igoinsideme
idon'tknowwhati'llfindthere,thingsrevealthemselves
thingspushthemselvesout,therearealwaysnewthingspushing
iwanttoburrowintheground,iwanttohidetherewithyou
          

i'llgivemultiplebirths,i'lleatsoil,myhairturnsmatted
i'llgofurtherthananyofyoualthoughitwillseemlikei'm
standingstill
mydreamspushthemselvesout,shintobeginstogiveway
thespacesareclutteredlikethenikkoshrine
mychesttearsoutfromwithin,othersstripmeofmyclothes
igoinasfarasican
there'snomoreroom
lookingout,panoramaseverywhere,isupposetherearesuns
tellmeaboutthesuns,ican'tspeak
          

whatcanitellyouwhenmyarmsarebound,mouthcloseagainstyou
turnaround,i'mpressedintoyourback
intoyourinterior,fromwithin,blackeverywhere,panoramablack
countrysidesdisappear
inthedistance,avoice-whoishangingthere?
_____________________________________________________________________
i'vegoneinasfarasicango.i'mchokedonallofit.i'mwaiting
foryou.i'mwaitingforthelinetohangup.i'mwaitingtohangfrom
theline.i'mkepthanging.i'minthere.i'mpressedoutofyourback.
i'mpressedoutbetweenourlegs.i'mbrokeninthere.i'mallcolors
          

oftherainbow.i'minshame.i'mhidingmyself.i'mexposed.i'm
troubledwithallofthis.i'mnowhere.therearenosunstotell.i
knowi'mboundtotellyou.there'snothingtolookatleftorright.
there'severythingtolookatwhichemptiesitallout.whatcouldbe,
whatisemptiedout.there'snotruthbuti'datleastincludethisin
whatmightbeseenasaproblematicsearch.
-
hangingtextiii
i'vegoneinasfarasicango.i'mchokedonallofit.i'mwaitingfor
you.i'mwaitingforthelinetohangup.i'mwaitingtohangfromthe
          

line.i'mkepthanging.i'minthere.i'mpressedoutofyourback.i'm
pressedoutbetweenourlegs.i'mbrokeninthere.i'mallcolorsofthe
rainbow.i'minshame.i'mhidingmyself.i'mexposed.i'mtroubledwith
allofthis.i'mnowhere.therearenosunstotell.iknowi'mboundto
tellyou.there'snothingtolookatleftorright.there'severythingto
lookatwhichemptiesitallout.whatcouldbe,whatisemptiedout.
there'snotruthbuti'datleastincludethisinwhatmightbeseenasa
searchforit.
istopbythenikukoshrine.it'sornate,ornamental,elaborate,convolu-
ted,repetitive,baroque,rococo,encrusted.it'salloverme.idreamof
          

ablacklinethroughthedeepcarvings,gravures.itcarriesmelikea
lightningforkthroughit.irealize-inreallife-i'veswallowedfrac-
talenergieschurninginme.they'reblackcarryingmyholesintounknown
tunnelsientertofindmyselfhangingthere.
mywordshuddletogetherinthetunnelsazureandimakeintoeachother,
forking.ican'thearanythingandscentdominates,chemicalspressing
intoclosedeyes.soirememberanyscrollsicomeacross,therearealot
ofthemandi'mthinkingaboutthem.theyunravelintoaluminouseye:
tobechantedbyburnedandhangingbodies:
largeandluminouseye,detached,initsfullness,circumscopic,sphere
          

ofsurroundingwaters
reflectingwithintowardsdiffusingcenters,thereyouwouldfind,
invisibly,coalescingofemanants
wewouldnotbeacquaintedwiththeemanantsandtheircoalescing,
norofthelargeandluminouseye,lidlessandalwaysopen
toitsinternallight
norwouldwespeakofsizeinthisindeterminacyofthesphere,emptiness
surrounding,norwouldwespeakofthequalityofthisemptiness,norof
diffusingcentersordiffusingcenter,norofnumberbeforenumber
norofthemoments,beforewhichtimemovedexponentiallyfrominfinity,
          

intoandoutofinfinity,norprimordialconceptsofintoandoutof,nor
primordialconceptsofinfinity
thinkingwhentimebeginningexponentially,thinking
ofthesingularityofthevectororray,
thedirectionamongsphericities,
growthofacircularnimbusontheexterior,primordialexteriors,
wavesofcircumscriptions,splittingsandemergentemanants
primordialnamesamongwithnikukoemerging,ofwisdomandambiance,
turningbacktowardsdiffusingcenters,submerging,primordialpulsings
andrhythms
          

andmeaningsthebeginningsofshrinesandprimordialpowers,
emergenceswithoutbeginning,paradoxesofprogressanddevelopment,
theeye,i,i,i,i,i
nowsosadlyhangingburneduponthetree,
nowturningslowlyinthewind,
nowlonggauntarmdescending,nowlongfingers
almosttouchingtheground,slowlyturningaroundtheobject,
slowlygraspingit
_________________________________________________________________________
Well,Ididn'tanddon'tthinkoftheimagesas"plainporno"atall,
          

havingseenporno,butI'llremovethem;theyweren'tintendedto
offend.
Alan
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Hi,I'mtakingallthe.jpgsout;feelthatthebestwayformeto
contributeisthroughtextonly.
Ifeeloddthatsomeimagesareacceptable,somearen't.Again,they
weren't"porno"butheavilyreworkedandredrawnforthatmatter.They
          

wentwiththetexts.
ButI'mnotouttooffendanyone;Ijustdon'twantimagesfilteredso
thatsome,forexample,maybeonthesite,andsomemaynot.Thatshould
beunderstandable.
Ontheotherhand,thetextsseemfine,andI'dliketokeepmy
contributionlargelyinthatform.
Alan
InternetTextathttp://www.anu.edu.au/english/internet_txt
Partialathttp://lists.village.virginia.edu/~spoons/internet_txt.html
TraceProjectsathttp://trace.ntu.ac.uk/writers/sondheim/index.htm
          

Afinalwordaboutthe.jpgsandthenI'llbequietonthis(they're
gone).
Therewascensorshiphere,orattemptedcensorship,oftheBrooklynMuseum
Sensationsshow-Iwasoutprotestingactively,writingaboutitonline,
etc.TheworkIhadincurrent/awasnomoreorlessexplicitthanthe
workintheshow-whichbytheway,wasandstillisopentopeopleof
anyage(Ithinkit'schildrenaccompaniedbyaguardian,butI'mnot
sure).AndIcouldn'tononehandprotestthecity'sattempttocensorthe
showandwithdrawmuseumfundingandontheothernotreacttomywork
hereas"pornography"tobetakendown.That'swhyItookalltheworkout
          

-exceptforthewriting-itdoesn'tmakesensetometopre-censormy
workforfearofoffendingotherartists.I'vebeeninallsortsofsitua-
tionsbeforefromcuratortoparticipatingartisttoadministratorto
boardmemberofartsorganizationsandIfeelverystronglyaboutthis.
Sopolitics,real-lifepolitics,entersthearenahereforme.Idowant
tocontinuetoparticipateintheproject,butitwillbetext-only,for
whateveruseanyonemightmakeofit,andI'llalsorespondtovisual
work,etc.inacollaborativefashionthroughtext-only.Considerita
formof_artepovera..._
Alan
          

IdidremovetheimagesasIsaid;I'mtiredoffightingthesebattles...
Theyapplytotheotherimagesas,Iwassayingoverseveraldays,at
leastforme,thedevelopmentofaninteriorofdesireagainstthe
coolnessofthepanorama;thisinteriorefflorescesandhastodowith
desireinthefirstplace-justaseverypanorama,forexample,is
unnatural,havingtodowiththelocationoftheviewer'seye...
Ontheotherhand,supposetheywereporn?SupposeIchosepornographic
imagesfromoneofthenewsgroupsandjustputthemup,withatextabout
theirrolewithintheproject?Shouldtheythenbetakenoutbyconsensus?
Thesamegoesforotherimages,thoseofviolence,forexample.Ifind
          

panoramasbeautifulbutalsotroublingpreciselyintheircalmness,asif
thewholeworldwereabsorbed.Myworkwasinrelationtothetroubling
aspect.
IthinkthediscussionisworthwhilebutI'dratherremainmyselfwith
text;Ifelthurtandinsultedanddon'tneedthat.
Alan
OnTue,9Nov1999,mezflesque.exewrote:
>juztlike2addmy2senzeworth...
>
>idon'tthinkAlanshoodbex-pectedtoremovethem-magezinqueztion,
          

>n-deedanyofthemrealli,thoughiamsorrytheymayoff-enduannie
>[thizzissincere].idon'tthinktheyrplainporn,thoughtheymayB
>somewotconfusingasapplieddirectlytothetext[butwhozaidallarthas
>2haveacause.allconnection?mycertainleedoezn't!!:)]juztwonderinif
>weshoodgetakindovcon.sense.oushappeninhere,oratleaztanairingif
>viewz,inrelationztos-sueslikethizz??
>
>
>concerned,
>mez
          

>
>
>
>+IFfle.shh!=sub.stanceofnanim[us].allbody//sur.faceofthebody
>+[lectric__bone______crust_______&_________hardware________bitten]
>+THEN*.esque=n-dicatingstyle,manner,ordis[funct]tinc.tive
>charact[.h]er
>+_____________________________________
>+wollongong.starway.net.au/~mezandwalt<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<[flesqueisborn]
>
          

InternetTextathttp://www.anu.edu.au/english/internet_txt
Partialathttp://lists.village.virginia.edu/~spoons/internet_txt.html
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It'snaturaltotheextentthatpoliticsisnatural.Butit'snotnatural
totheextentthatpoliticsisculturallydetermined.Takeyourpick.
Alan
OnMon,8Nov1999,TedWarnellwrote:
>Put'emup,ifyoulike.Take'emdown,ifyoulike.
>Applaud'em,ifyoulike.Deride'em,ifyoulike...
>
          

>Allisapartof'theprocess'--allisnatural.-T
>
>
>
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Idon'tunderstandwhyyou'talk'abouthalifax????
annie
doyouknowthatthethreerichestpeopleintheworldhaveasmuchmoney
          

asthe600milionpoorest?
At22:5001/11/99+0100,reinerstrasserwrote:
>whatifoundabouthalifax
>
>
>itisabitweird
>but
>ibeganwithhalifax,thoughtateinsteinandoppenheimer,
>andendedupatnagasakyandhiroshima
>(whathaveireadonaposterinatoiletinafriendshouse
          

>onsaturday
>...somethinglike.....the'atomreaction'wasagreat
>effortbutitwillnothelpforlive....or...otherthings
>havetobedevelopped....somethinglikethat...itwasby
>AlbertEinstein)
>
>youcanhavealookatthecollectedpicturesat'halifax'
>
>
>..........reiner
          

>
>
>
>
Ilikeditverymuch
isn'tthejpgcodesmaller,becausethereisnowaytointerferewiththe
mouseonthejpg???
whatwasinteresting,wastheloadingofthe.jpg,iliketheblackand
whitepaternsofthelandscapeverymuch,
doyouallseethispattern?
          

doessomeoneknowwhatitisandifwecanisolateitasaseparateviewon
thesamepan?
wheredoigoto,
wheredoicomefrom
whoisI?
Iaminthecenter
butthewebhasnocenter,
onthewebIisfragmented
dislocated
justwanderingaround
          

changingallthetime
thecentermightberelocatedwhen
Idisconnect?
>
>whatdoyouthink?
>
>
>
Iamgladyouleavethequicktime(iamonpctoo)
Iwouldprefertoseeonlyprojecttitlesontheindexpage,andnotthe
          

namesoftheparticipants
ifwegroupourworkunderprojectnamesfromthestart,workingtogether
willbeeasier
thenamescancomeuplaterfromalinksomewhere?
byeannie
pswheredowegoto
wheredowecomefrom
whoiswe?
At19:3103/11/99+0100,reinerstrasserwrote:
>wirstehenalleinderMittedesPanoramas
          

>ja.nichtwirklich-ichweiss
>aberunsereImaginationkannunsfuehren
>
apanoramaisametaphore
apanoramaisanutopia
apanoramaisaconstruction
andnotevenimaginationcanembraceit
>wirstehenalleinderMitteeinerSpirale
>undwassichumunsdrehtistdieWelt
>
          

>wiewirsiesehen
>
>und
>jedeVerschiedenheit
>kannauseinandertreibenundauchzusammenfuehren
>
>
>
>>>>>pswheredowegoto
>>>>weareclimbingtotheimaginativespiral
          

>>>>>wheredowecomefrom
>>>>weallcomefrompoint,pointbehindthehorizonofperceptionand
knowledge
>>>>>whoiswe?
>>>>weareathinkeroftenderness,fighteroflostwords,wearebelievers
>>>in'iandthou''
translationindutch:
waargaanweheen?
weklimmenindespiraalvanonzeverbeelding
waarkomenwevandaan?
          

wekomenallemaaluitéénpunt,hetpuntachterdehorizonvanwaarneming
enkennis
wiezijnwij,
wijzijnbedenkersvantederheid,vechtersvoorverlorenwoorden,wijzijn
geloversin'ikengij'
amorepersonalversion:
wegotodeath
wecomefrombirth
wearewhatwedo
Ihaveuploadedsomematerialto'code'
          

-asmallpartofthecodeofthe17thhumanchromosome
-apanoramajpg
-an.avipanorama
-arealvideoofafilmmadealongtimeagoaboutmyparents
justmaterial
withlovetoall
annie
hi,
othermaterial:pandifferently(void)
andastart:nothingisneutral
          

lovetoall
annie
hitina,sawyouloadedatina.jpginoneofreinerswindows,maybea
needletoo?
alan,yesiambotheredbysomeofyourimages,isawc3andc6,please
taketheseandsimilarimagesoutofourproject(ormaybeyoucoulduse
theminacontext,justrawlikethis,it'splainporno)
hangingremindsmeofasongofbillyholliday(strangefruits?)
Yes,Annie,IsawitandwroteReineraboutit;Ilikedit.Iwassorry
whenIdiscovereditwasanartifact.Itlookedlikeapianorollat
          

timesortheinsideofamusicboxandthen,too,itkeptmovinglike
one.
>wheredoigoto,
>wheredoicomefrom
>whoisI?
>
>Iaminthecenter
>
>butthewebhasnocenter,
Justwenttoaconferenceatwhichthe"I"wasdisparagedbyacertain
          

tight-knitandpowerfulpoetrygroup.IntheU.S.wehad(hopefully
pasttense)a"me"generationandmuchcorporategreed.Thethree
richestmenarenowbusygivingawaytheirmoney!Tomedicalresearch,
tominorityeducation,etc.Dotheyfeelitintheirhearts?Idon't
know.Butitlookslikeapositivetrendhere.Therehavebeenpoetry
circlereactionstotheme-generationmindsetandtoatypeof
romanticism.The"I"iscalledallkindsofnastynames.However,most
oftheworlddidnothavethatselfishphaseandsoquitehappily
continuesusingthe"I".ToME,the"I"seemsnecessarytoaffective
literatureandtorelatingtoselfandotherswithsomeinnervitality.
          

Rightnow,everyoneintheU.S.iscomplainingthatpeopleare
dissociatedfromeachother.Losingselfisnottheanswer.Selfand
selfishnessarenotsynonymous.The"I"andnarcissismarenotthe
same.
That'swhat"IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII"think,andwhatdo
"YOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOUYOU"think?
Love,Christy
AspellcheckrevealsthatReinercouldbereplacedby"Reindeer".
ItooktheHalifaxdiscussiontobeaboutwarandasmanyofthepeople
onthislistfirstmetduringthewar,thatthatwastheconnection.
          

Hi,all,
http://www.workxspace.de/current/christy/currents.html
Anyonecantakeanythingatthissite.IusedAlan'sredfringe,
Reiner'sdiagrams,afruitsite'scurrants(manipulated)andalinefrom
theHalifaxwarstory.Onetip,aFlashfilmcanbefrozen:unclick
"play"intheFlashmenu.Thentakeascreengrab.Ialsohaveagreat
reverseofReiner'sdiagramaticsketch.
http://www.workxspace.de/current/christy/images/cssreversesrs.jpgI
addedawordIwantedtoremembertolookup.
Thisworkisnotfinished,buthopeitshowsonedirection.----->
          

Thepopoutisbeingsynchedtothefilm--notsomethingplanned.Causes
averyslowscrollwithsomerushes.
Best,Christy
I'dreallyliketoseethatorvariationsofit--whateverpeople
believe--invariouslanguages.
>At03:22PM99-11-03+0100,PredragSidjaninwrote:
>>
>>>pswheredowegoto
>>weareclimbingtotheimaginativespiral
>>>wheredowecomefrom
          

>>weallcomefrompoint,pointbehindthehorizonofperceptionandknowledge
>>>whoiswe?
>>weareathinkeroftenderness,fighteroflostwords,wearebelievers
>in'iandthou''
>>
>>
Hi,I'mbecomingthrilledbythisproject.I'msurprisedthatIcan
readasmuchDutchandGermanasIcan!Andhere'ssomethingperhaps
frivolous--tryandforgiveme.IlovethecapitalnounsinGermanand
allthev'sinDutch.
          

WhenIreturntoGainesville,FloridaIwillgoouttoPaynesPrairee
anddescribeitforyou.Apanoramicviewfromabiketrailthatis
fabulous.Bytheway,haveyouusedoneofthosecheapone-time-use
panoramacameras?Iusedonebyaccidentandtheimagesbowledme
over.Thatwouldbecoolifeachofdescribedalandscapepanoramain
ourlives.
Love,ChristyonthewaytoLondontonightat9p.m.
afewchangesto"precipitating..."
graphicsareavailablein...\stuff\graphics
andthedatafilein...\stuff\dataisasimpleascitextfilewith
          

a.csvsuffix
--
DavidKnoebel
http://www.clickpoetry.com
KnowingAlan'swork,Ididn'treadthosepicsaspornographs.Annie,you
wererighttospeakupwhenyouwereoffended,butcensorshipisnotthe
answer.We'recommitted,grown-upartists;weshouldtrusteachother.
Saywhatyouwant,butdon'tcensor.
--
DavidKnoebel
          

http://www.clickpoetry.com
phirstlee,hellohaall,thozeiknowandthozeiwillinafutureniche,
noethyme@themo2write/cree-8/vizion,willasap.
forgivemylackofsub-ztanceasyet,ittwillcome:)
chunksofcheerz,
mez
+IFfle.shh!=sub.stanceofnanim[us].allbody//sur.faceofthebody
+[lectric__bone______crust_______&_________hardware________bitten]
+THEN*.esque=n-dicatingstyle,manner,ordis[funct]tinc.tive
charact[.h]er
          

+_____________________________________
+wollongong.starway.net.au/~mezandwalt<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<[flesqueisborn]
n-stall.ment1isnowuppt:)
+IFfle.shh!=sub.stanceofnanim[us].allbody//sur.faceofthebody
+[lectric__bone______crust_______&_________hardware________bitten]
+THEN*.esque=n-dicatingstyle,manner,ordis[funct]tinc.tive
charact[.h]er
+_____________________________________
+wollongong.starway.net.au/~mezandwalt<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<[flesqueisborn]
juztlike2addmy2senzeworth...
          

idon'tthinkAlanshoodbex-pectedtoremovethem-magezinqueztion,
n-deedanyofthemrealli,thoughiamsorrytheymayoff-enduannie
[thizzissincere].idon'tthinktheyrplainporn,thoughtheymayB
somewotconfusingasapplieddirectlytothetext[butwhozaidallarthas
2haveacause.allconnection?mycertainleedoezn't!!:)]juztwonderinif
weshoodgetakindovcon.sense.oushappeninhere,oratleaztanairingif
viewz,inrelationztos-sueslikethizz??
concerned,
mez
+IFfle.shh!=sub.stanceofnanim[us].allbody//sur.faceofthebody
          

+[lectric__bone______crust_______&_________hardware________bitten]
+THEN*.esque=n-dicatingstyle,manner,ordis[funct]tinc.tive
charact[.h]er
+_____________________________________
+wollongong.starway.net.au/~mezandwalt<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<[flesqueisborn]
>pswheredowegoto
weareclimbingtotheimaginativespiral
>wheredowecomefrom
weallcomefrompoint,pointbehindthehorizonofperceptionandknowledge
>whoiswe?
          

weareathinkeroftenderness,fighteroflostwords,wearebelieversin'iandthou''
hiall,
form-alistics....:)
thecodeforthejavascriptversionofpanisnowclean(ihope
-itworkwithouttroubleonmymac)
ihaveuploadtooaversion'pan+code'
withsomethinglikeanniescode
buthaveopeneditintheframesbeside
alltestdevices!!!
thecodeisheremuchshorter.....itisthecodeigotinnetscape
          

-pagesourcefromthejpgfile(pan240.jpg)iusedforthepan
why?
usingnotquicktimeopenssomepossibilities
(besidethefactthatsomepcusers.hichristy.
havetroublewiththeplugin)
-itismoreeasytosethotspots
---toopenpagesintheframesbeside
(thekindofcuttingisnotthelastword:)
orinthemiddleframewiththepan
....likeyoucanseeinpan+code
          

---toopenwindows(likeanniesoriginalcode)
---tostartsound(iwilladsomeinvisibleframes-wheresoundcanbeloadin
likee.g.inthepianoorwater......)
---......
-thehotspotscanbemarkedby'rollover'picturechange
(atthemomentiuseimagemap-thephotomaybecutlater
--ifiknow-where,how...etc.)
[iwilluploadamuchbigger.tifffileforyourexperiments]
thepanframeis480*240(260heights-incl.thescrollbar)
---lookatthecodeofpan_f.html
          

nowitisopenfore.g.flash-hidavid:)
orwhatyoulike(dhtml.....html.....etc)
whatdoyouthink?
love.......reiner
hi.....davidwasnotonthelastmails----
pleaseusethismail.....forfurthermails-toall
love..........reiner
bluab....thetifffileis2.5MB....(toomuch:)
youcanfindinthecurrent_panfoldernow
ajpgwiththeleastcompressionrate
          

-560k-pan240_high.jpg
ifyouliketomodifypartsorthewhole
youcandownloadthere
best.......reiner
whatifoundabouthalifax
itisabitweird
but
ibeganwithhalifax,thoughtateinsteinandoppenheimer,
andendedupatnagasakyandhiroshima
(whathaveireadonaposterinatoiletinafriendshouse
          

onsaturday
...somethinglike.....the'atomreaction'wasagreat
effortbutitwillnothelpforlive....or...otherthings
havetobedevelopped....somethinglikethat...itwasby
AlbertEinstein)
youcanhavealookatthecollectedpicturesat'halifax'
..........reiner
>Yes,Annie,IsawitandwroteReineraboutit;Ilikedit.Iwassorry
>whenIdiscovereditwasanartifact.Itlookedlikeapianorollat
>timesortheinsideofamusicboxandthen,too,itkeptmovinglike
          

>one.
>
hihiannie-christy
itisnotanartifact:)
itisagifloadingatthebeginning:)
lookatthehtml-code
or
inthecurrent_pandirectory
lowscr
worksonlywithnetscape---tellsmydocumentation
          

halifax
inthepa
ifyoulookintothesun
theatmospherechanges
thedarkbushbeforethewhitesky
i'always'see'death'here
(havesomeotherphotosforthis...vergaenglichkeit)
----anditmaybehalifaxorhiroshima
destroying-humans,cities,nature.......
thethemeopensup
          

and
whatyouseeiswhatYOUsee
somemayfollow....othersnot
isthisimportant?
ilikeasmuchdiversityaseveryonepersonally
wantstocontribute
(atthemoment:)
andtherewillbea'turbulence'behindthepan
disturbing...splitting....andcomingtogether
huah....verypathetic...:)
          

bettertoshutup...fornow
willuploadsomenewsketchestoday:)....later
whatisaboutthe'names'?
thewholeindexpageisonlyaservicefortheparticipants
nothingmore
and...ithoughtitwouldbemoreeasy
tolinkfromthenames
(fortheother...........)
+therearesomekindofindividualplaces
therefore......noshame...pickupmystuff:)
          

wecanremovethenames-wecannot:)
decide.....!
love.......reiner
itislaternow:)
somesketchesat'pan'......
-.........reiner
wirstehenalleinderMittedesPanoramas
ja.nichtwirklich-ichweiss
aberunsereImaginationkannunsfuehren
wirstehenalleinderMitteeinerSpirale
          

undwassichumunsdrehtistdieWelt
wiewirsiesehen
und
jedeVerschiedenheit
kannauseinandertreibenundauchzusammenfuehren
ChristySheffieldSanfordwrote:
>I'dreallyliketoseethatorvariationsofit--whateverpeople
>believe--invariouslanguages.
>
>>At03:22PM99-11-03+0100,PredragSidjaninwrote:
          

>>>
>>>>pswheredowegoto
>>>weareclimbingtotheimaginativespiral
>>>>wheredowecomefrom
>>>weallcomefrompoint,pointbehindthehorizonofperceptionandknowledge
>>>>whoiswe?
>>>weareathinkeroftenderness,fighteroflostwords,wearebelievers
>>in'iandthou''
>>>
>>>
          

iwouldbepleased
ifsomeone
would
ADD
mail-text
tomail---text
inthecurrentdirectory:)
>Thatwouldbecoolifeachofdescribedalandscapepanoramain
>ourlives.
ANNOUCEMENT
          

SPECIALSERVICEFORCURRENTPARTICIPANTS
FORFREE
YOUCANGETAPANORAMAOFYOURPHOTOS
...makephotosofyourpreferedpanorama
(turningaround-horizonatthesameheight-appr.30%overlapping)
...scanthese
...anddownloadatthepan_servicedirectoryof'current'
(youhavetocreatethisdirectory:)
...sendinformationaboutfilmformal(normal,aps,digital)
+objectiveinformation(e.g.24mm,30mm,50mm)
          

...sometimeslateryouwillfindapanorama.jpgofyourphotos
(ihaveaspecialprogramtogeneratethepanoramas)
YOUMAYNOTBELIEVEIT
BUTITISREALLYFOR0$
OFFERLIMITEDTO20/2/2000
>I'dreallyliketoseethatorvariationsofit--whateverpeople
>believe--invariouslanguages.
>
>>At03:22PM99-11-03+0100,PredragSidjaninwrote:
>>>
          

>>>>pswheredowegoto
>>>weareclimbingtotheimaginativespiral
>>>>wheredowecomefrom
>>>weallcomefrompoint,pointbehindthehorizonofperceptionandknowledge
>>>>whoiswe?
>>>weareathinkeroftenderness,fighteroflostwords,wearebelievers
>>in'iandthou''
>>>
>>>
Wohingehenwir?
          

WirerklimmendirimaginativeSpirale.
Woherkommenwir?
WirallekommenvonStandorten,PunktenhinterdemHorizontderWahrnehmungund
desWissens.
WoisdasWir?
WirsindDenkerderZartheit(Zaertlichkeit),KaempfervoerlorenerWorte;
wirsindGlaubende(nobodywouldsay'Glaubende'ingerman-itisveryreligious)
andasIchunddasDu(better)wirglaubenandasIchunddasDu.oder.wir
vertrauenaufdasIchunddasDu.
(butthecontentswillchangehere-webelievein'iandthou'..wehave
          

confidencein'iandthou'
.....thatwasthegermantranslation
justcamehomefromwork....havetoreadalltheseveryinterestingmails:)
love...reiner
hited,
finework(s)!!!
forcurrentandsyntacs!!!
youseemtobeincontactwithpredrag
(inevergotthemailabove...)
?
          

keeponrunning
thecurrent-carouselbeginstocirclearound
-doyoufeelthewind?
cu......reiner
TedWarnellwrote:
>WearecurrentlyPaulGauguin
>
>At03:22PM99-11-03+0100,PredragSidjaninwrote:
>>
>>>pswheredowegoto
          

>>weareclimbingtotheimaginativespiral
>>>wheredowecomefrom
>>weallcomefrompoint,pointbehindthehorizonofperceptionandknowledge
>>>whoiswe?
>>weareathinkeroftenderness,fighteroflostwords,wearebelievers
>in'iandthou''
>>
>>
dis_locateD
thislocationisagoodasevryone
          

thisviewisaslocatedasevryone
/
itdoesnomoreexist-thispan
ifiwillgotheretoday
itwilllookinanotherway
and
becauseiamnotthesame
thevineisnotthesame
thebushnot
thehill,thesky
          

allchanged
withered,bloomed,..reaped....
/
wasitmygrandpa
whomadethepan?
/
willihear
thevoicesofthechilds
playingbehindthehill
theicebreakingundermyshoe
          

thewhistleofpastandeternity
/
/
theviewislimitedasevrywhere
myhorizonfixed
hiddenfly
withoneeye
/
selfmadeconstructionofa180degreepancam:
takeatubeoutofcardboard(oldboxforwashingpowder*)
          

makealittleholeinthemiddleheightofthecylinder
putatapebeforethehole
asheetofphotopaperinside(inadarkroom)
gooutside....fixthetube....openthholeforsomeminutes
.......
iamthislittle[w]holelookingtothesurrrounding.s
darknessbehindme...fixingtheview
*iaminsidethecylinderofawashingmachine
manyholesaroundmebutnolight
themovement.thecentrifugalforce
          

pressingmeattheborder
whilewaterisspoilingmymind
andthetonguedry
spaceisanexperienceofmovement
ifiwillbefixedonapoint
otherthingsmoving
mirrortheimpressionofmyown
movement
whichcanmovemeaswell
amialwaysfixedinapoint?
          

atrainarrives.....ialwaysthink
todrivefast-sittingnearbythewindow
inthestandingtrain
iamsittinginachaincarousel
andthewholeworlddisappears
infastness
itstillmovesafterwards
whenigo
to
eata'Mohrenkopf/Negerkuss'
          

thepumpableplastictoys
oflittlenegros...ibuyed
asachildonthe'Jahrmarkt'
arelost
inmyownhistory
abigacienttapestrypanorama-hangingintheNormandie
(havetolookforthepicture)
theprocessofopeningup
isreversible
isaprocesstoopeningupinside
          

asoutside
dis_locateD
isaveryinterestingwordforme
itdoesnotexistingerma
-
translatingwordbyword
itwouldbe
'ent_oertlicht'
(withoutlocation)
inmydictionaryifind
          

dislocated-durcheinanderbringen
ifitranslateback
durcheinanderbringen-tomess,tomuddle
therfore
ifileavemylocation-iam/becomemuddled
but
whatismylocation?
somethinglikemyhome,theplaceilive
orsimplytheplaceistay
theplaceistayisnotenough....
          

morelikeanest...aplaceofsecurity
and'Gewohnheit'(habit)....
theplacemyfriendsare....
(nowihavefriendsincyberspace-somewhere
ontheworld-andwillbenotbecomedislocatedthere
????::)))
isitthelocationihaveinsidemyself?
iwanttofind?
----theinnercenter
whereisTHElocationinsidemyself?
          

(iwonderthatthiswordexistsinenglish-notingerman)
justupload
paWn
(>>pan...paWn)
itisascriptingforpan......
thewindowsareblank(grey)andcanbefilledsometimes
ihavegenerated7emptyhtmlpagesopeninginwindow400*200
(maybechangedlater-ithoughtofsomethingverticaltothepaninthe
sameproportion)
theyareloadedrandomly...movingrandomlyfromrighttoleft
          

(incontrasttothemovementinpan)
disappearattheleft
youcanshutdownthedemobyclosingtheblackbar
(buthavetowaitawhileuntilthelastwindowdisappeared)
best
reiner
have
abreak
take
akit-kat
          

(advertisingforachocolate.sweet)
sittingonthepan
puttingthepan
inapan
withsomeeggs
while
panswings
greece
onhisflute
ihadaplan
          

aplainplan
ofapainlessfan
flewaway
inaplane
anniesaid:'dadaiseverywhere'
da(german)-here
dada(french)-hobby-horse
adda(german-babelanguage)-togooutside/tohaveawalk.or.+bye
dadadaadda..........reiner
anotherpaninpan
          

:)
haveaniceweekend
love...reiner
(whoiam?lookingforreiner:)twice....)
op_dateofselfp.inParis
twice:twice
......needsomesun
cu(r.rent)lie
lovereiner
>
          

>twine:twice
thisviewisirregular
outside
thepan

itwilllook
thesame
but
reverse
itisanirregular
--------update3twiNe:twiCe
          

love.....reiner
thetinaandneedlefiles
are
photosimadeinthe70s
therearemoretina.sontheworld:)allunique:)
tothetwophotos(atpaWn01)
needle(himez:)
--inthe70siwroteastoryabout'theneedle'
-goingthrutheholeofaneedle
(ingerman:durcheinNadeloehrgehen
          

meanstodo/trytheim_possible)
insomekindweareallsitting/standing
inthislittlehole
placedinthemiddleofthepan
iknowitisre_allyir_regular
:)
but
today
thoughtofa
'decenteredworldview/sight'
          

doesweneedthisforthefuture?
wherewillitleadto?
also
oneothernotioninmymind
'globalmemory'
(ifollowedsomediscussionsmonthsago
aboutthis-doessomethinglikea'globalmemory'exist?)
thru
thevirtualconstructionofthepan
thisstrangesituation
          

allinonepointondifferentpoints
ontheglobe
lookingin-andoutside
itisadecenteringof'my'sight
sometimes
ifeelthewholepanlurching
(likethecoininAlan.sfingers)
lurch-german=batrachian
...sittingonawallinthehotsouth.....
orinacaveundertheearth....
          

backtophoto-tina
itwasagirlfriendofmineinthe70s
shediedwith24oncancer.....
...itisapersonalpictureformyself
apointinmymemoryioftenfallback
likesomeotherblackdots
...ihavetothinkaboutthisdots
inbetween...elsetheywouldgrow
anddarkenmysoul
...........
          

istillwonderwhenthesunwillriseagain
onthepan....thereisbluesky...every
fall/winter(thephotowasshotinjanuary99)
....nextspring-summer
ainner/outertourmustnotendinashadow
(butitis...im_portant....toconfrontmyselfwiththese)
love.....reiner
annie-does'void'scrollwithie(ifyesyourscriptisbetterthanmine
:)
-whitebar???iamonlyonnetscape---
          

inmywindowsiuseascriptto'set'the'borders'to'0'
oneforIE...oneforNS
donotknowifthisworkswithdhtml...???tryit...(copy/paste)
whoseishurtingwhosefeelings?
weareworkingonONEpiece....
l...........reiner
>Iwouldprefertoseeonlyprojecttitlesontheindexpage,andnotthe
>namesoftheparticipants
hi...everyone,
ilikethemultiplenames
          

itunderscoresthemultiplesubjectivities
atplay,here.
adispersedactivity
realizedbyhumans
notmachines
ihopetohavesometime
thisweekendtocreate&uploadsomefiles
untilthen
CUxoxo,tina
>ifwegroupourworkunderprojectnamesfromthestart,workingtogether
          

>willbeeasier
>thenamescancomeuplaterfromalinksomewhere?
>
>byeannie
>
>pswheredowegoto
>wheredowecomefrom
>whoiswe?
>
>hitina,sawyouloadedatina.jpginoneofreinerswindows,maybea
          

>needletoo?
>
>
hiannie...hiall,
no.ihaven'tuploadedanythingyet--
maybethisisreiner'sfile:tina.jpg
whereisit,btw...?
well,iboughtadisposablepancameraandmadesomepicturesthisweekend
i'llgetthefilmdevelopedanddosomescans,uploads,etclaterthisweek(end)
ciao,tina