Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 22:46:18 PDT From: "pete spence" Subject: thiscussion on new media. dear ted warnell..NEW MEDIA!! the biggest fli-bi-nite since gutenburg!! yours pete spence Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 20:46:48 PDT From: "pete spence" Subject: sagemess dear ted...yep thanks...re NEW MEDIA seems to me two parts to this quest one/ the personal...two/the marketting pitch....ok one/as a visual poet i'm into archaic cut-and-paste then i photocopy what i'm happy with one day a few years ago i decided to do some screen-prints for an exhibition i was invited to, the cut-and-paste part was the same jargon but the photo-screen and the printing was a whole new media for me it was enjoyable same as this e-mail stuff i went into it a few months back and here i yam doing this so NEW to me, so personally NEW MEDIA is any way of my making my marks that i haven't tried before...not that i'm gunna go out get a whole pile of different coloured flattish stones und do a mosaic!!!the number two part of this feeds back to my first statement to you that is i don't think the NEW TECHNOL is any more important than any other and i'm unhappy it is being pushed very hard as the great endall revolve i think it important to explore any medium that might do something for your work/play..thas about it for now pete spence Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 17:25:49 PDT From: "pete spence" Subject: quiknote ted i'm fully aware of what you need to hear. gotta say as a film animator i have yet to see anything happening thats much better/newer than what can be come up with through the old physical/hands onto activity...it is of course a place to explore possibilities,,but metinks (as a tinkerer) that you gotta have good funds to get the results you want (to me a primal worry that could close off op/portunity to those without such access to funds whyche could create a very ELITE situation,,,a film of mine that cost me only $100 to makeby hand did a good trip round the globe via the film festivals so i get to wondering now when even $100 is something i find hard to get where this might be going!!) but if nec/sary i will refrain my notable with you and let you get on with it!! i hope my friend stephen ball gets on to you 'cause he's got sum goods on the area!! hey have you ever read ABRAHAM LINCOLN GILLESPIE!!! YS pete spence Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 21:00:10 PDT From: "pete spence" Subject: n.ewe mess age dear t.ed warn,ell..yup thanks, sorry i'm keeping on at length, will comment tho now und then,,,just had a meey,age from master steven ball he's bookmarked you for the moment but said he thot your stuff interesting,, i feel he could get a good useful discuss going wit(h) you so i hope he gets o'er his busyness soon and talks,,, re the abraham lincoln gillespie ..usa writer sorta post joyce ,,richard kostelanetz helped me get a copy of his book thats out from OUT OF LONDON PRESS (ny).. gillespie was also a friend of bob brown who did the readies (i made a film dedicated to him) in the thirties he was searching for the best way to read at the speed information is gathered by our senses (i guess!!) anyway his friend who invented the microfiche got short shift from him 'cause brown figured too slow a medium for his poipose..brown and gillespie would have been good bedfellows for your search of NEW MEDEA(a pun intended?). re NEW MEDIA MY FEELING IS GIVE UP ALL SOFTWARE PACKAGES.. LEARN PROGRAMMING FROM A COUPLE OF GOOD RUSSIANS..LEARN HOW TO MAKE A CLEAN SHELL IN SIDE YOUR COMPUTER..SET UP A SELF.REPLACATING.FACTORY. CONSIDER SMALL MARGINS OF ERROR, START UP WHAT YOU WANNA DO.. UND SEE WHAT HAPPENS!!! YRS pete spence Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 19:51:37 PDT From: "pete spence" Subject: noat ok yep etc,,,the situ i mentioned was put together by someone who wanted to model evolution and did so with good suck.sess!! i just wonder where i saw it and if i can send it to you if i find it!! most of the good devel.lope.ments in recent times have been through people like astronomers dealing with thwee body problems and other scientific bods who need to model some nightmare!!!maybe thats the place to explore to find good weys (huh huh) to get up NEW MEDIA stuff of interest. built in small margins for error i think are useful to get you right on the energetic edge between chaos und its other!!! maybe thats why i mentioned the russian programmers they've made some nice chaos packages...apart from all dat (data) do you have a slow-mail address so i might send you some things ,,maybe a collaboration,,, a recent book o' mine etcetc.... pete spence